Sep

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Knowing the Artist

By rascal

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for keeping the very interesting discussions here on an even keel. David is now and will continue to grow as a cultural phenomenon, and it is reasonable and illuminating to investigate with intelligence (and occasional silliness — you know who you are!) all that this implies.

As a means of clarifying to those who may wonder about the parameters of discussion here on notingDavid, it may be helpful to think of it this way: What David chooses to put out there is up for discussion; what he chooses to keep private is not. It is really as simple as that.

It may also be helpful to remember that David’s work — his music, of course, but also his image (by way of photographs and videos, appearances and interviews, etc.) — should always to a certain extent be distinguished from David the person. Naturally, an artist and his work are fundamentally intertwined, but of course no one is fully defined by their work. I very much appreciate those who feel protective, even defensive, about David. So it is important to understand that if discussions proceed into areas that some may find controversial or–horrors!–even critical, that it is the work and the artist being explored, not the person.

Indeed, I am suspicious of discussions that proceed under the premise of David’s “character.” We cannot presume to know David’s real character. We don’t know how he is in business, for example, or how he is within the confines of family; what he is like in the dimensions of personal and romantic relationships, or even of his faith–about which he has never spoken openly. It is not our right as his public to expect to know these things. David has displayed a remarkably solid, refreshing, luminous public persona, and I have no doubt that it is absolutely genuine and closely reflective of his own true nature. But it does David a disservice to assume that we’re getting a full and complete picture of his character. No artist should be expected to reveal that much of themselves — outside of their art.

For it is indeed in his art where David is most revealing; where he has the incredible courage and magnificent skill to lay bare the deepest reaches of his soul. In the end, there is nothing else we need to know about the man that cannot be found in his music. To quote Oscar Hammerstein, “all the rest is talk.”

118 Responses so far

How you sum things up and put things into perspective is amazing.

What David does with music, you, Rascal, do with words.

I really appreciate your dedication and effort in openly reflecting and sharing David’s journey. I also appreciate your post today, as you remind all his fans of the facts you point out (delicately, I may add!). Not one of us truly knows the depths of David. It could possibly throw us over the edge for sure! As many concerts or meet and greets we may have attended, we only scratched the surface. I think David does reveal much of himself, though. So for that, we are honored and blessed. I look forward to the journey ahead for David and for all us fans. I feel we have a front row seat and a new family in which to view the show!

Thanks again Rascal, your writings have blessed me – not to mention the wonderful pictures!

I did not comment on the thread yesterday because I was so DANG busy and honestly did not have the time to think about any of the issues being discussed. I also wasn’t sure I was really at the right site :) I can’t say I even read every post. When I finally had time to relax and ponder I came up with three thoughts:

First, all the talk about appropriate and inappropriate. I have seen things that I consider entirely inappropriate (I’m talking all around the internet, not just here, and in real life) but that others think are just fine. It’s obvious everyone has an opinion. I wondered what rascal thinks might be inappropriate or ‘up for discussion’ and find he has blogged about it already – “What David chooses to put out there is up for discussion; what he chooses to keep private is not.” I appreciate this greatly.

Fans will always disagree about what is ‘appropriate’ when discussing David and even, I suspect, what he has ‘put out there’ and what is private. It comes from feeling like we really know who he is and the feeling of protectiveness (is that a word?) that has been discussed in relation to him. Which leads to the second thought I had – as much as we have watched, read and blogged about David and as much as we think we know him, we only know and understand the smallest part of who he is as it relates to his music and his journey on AI to this point. Again, I log in here, and rascal has also blogged about that. Thank you again!

I had an insight recently about this that made me stop and think. I decided that I would never speculate about what David thought or wanted or liked or disliked because I would be so wrong. I am not saying that David’s public persona is a lie, but my experience was just a reminder to me that he DOES have a private life that we all know nothing about. So, third thought that I had –

Since that time, as I’ve surfed around the internet, this ‘presumption of knowing’ in relation to his personal feelings has simply made me chuckle. What David ‘knows’ and thinks is OK, what his parents, friends and family ‘know’ and think is OK, what he would or would not be offended or shocked at is pure presumption that people take for truth, unless someone involved has made a definitive statement about it. I would like to think (I am not assuming anything!) that if David or his family came here or to other sites they would laugh as well, but I can’t say that with any conviction. It makes me more reserved in what I say. But that’s just me.

For the past few weeks I have been telling my family and friends that if I had the time I would research and write a book about the phenomenon of being a ‘fan.’ As this is my first experience with it, I am endlessly fascinated by what I see and read. Fan behavior at times annoys and infuriates me and at other times completely warms my heart and brings me to tears (Cancer fund for example). I have seen my own progression from the early days of the show to being completely obsessed to trying to pull back and everything in between. I would be lying if I didn’t acknowledge that my own life has changed in remarkable ways because of David, and analyzing and documenting this across the spectrum of fans would be so interesting.

I think basically what I am taking up this blog space to say is that in the end, again, my conclusion was the same as rascal’s – Thank God for David’s music, because it’s there that we all find our common ground. All the excessive speculation and analyzing of every word or move he makes, while really fun for some to do, in the end means nothing and in many cases is not even true. David’s artistry is what really brings us together. So for the third time, thank you rascal, and sorry for the piggyback thoughts!

I love you Rascal!

I think that is hard to separate David’s artistry from his person. We hard-core fans want to know and have more and more. I think that our love of David and our desire for more could be seen as invasive but I don’t think it is intended that way. But your description is so very true, and we will never really “know” David. It pains me that he will never truly have a “normal” life, but he seems happy and seems to accept his new life. I just want the best for him, now and always. I’ll watch and listen and absorb all I can. Go rock the world David!

archu_adorable – YES!!!! Loved your post.

Well said Rascal. His behavior while performing, speaking or interacting with his fans is always impecable, emotional and somehow, shall I say, correct, the right thing. He portrays such innocence, humor and grace that it is hard for us to think of him any differently or not perfect. After all, that such behavior is what has drawn us all to him in the first place.

I’m sure, however that he is totally human and as passionate and ambitious in others areas of his life as he is in his music. We don’t need to know, have no right to know…..but OHHH how fun it is to Imagine!

As David’s voice and music can reduce me to tears of joy and connectedness to life, so do your words, Rascal. All I can say is “thank you”. I so enjoy and respect your insights and ability to bring it all together so eloquently. I am so glad that here we can examine David the artist and ourselves as his fans rather than judge his character and delve into who he is a what he does in his private life….
Thank you all posters.. for making me laugh, cry, think ,sigh and just enjoy you all. Hugs

Rascal, your artistry in writing is comparable with David’s artistry in music.
David makes me feel and connect with him when he sings and you convey very clearly to me through your writing. I understand every word you say and how you feel about David. You are a very remarkable person. I am thankful that I found your site and I am very proud to be in this community of David’s supporters who truly care about David developments in a natural way. I am not as eloquent as many of the friends here but I am sure you understand the sincerity I expressed.

Love and peace to everyone here.

Dear Rascal, thank you for the kind and wise post. It opens my eyes and soothes my mind… You gave a great message to the fans, and I believe to David too, if he comes across this page… David is so young, what he sees and hears now is still changing him, not to mention that he has such a great learning attitude. All the while, I could not help but worry that he might be exposed to the wrong sources of praise, criticism and commercial ideas.. which might change him into someone else… But reading your post, I was put at ease, for there are people like you who really loves and more importantly who knows the right way to protect him. Thanks Rascal…

As a regular lurker and once in a while poster, I am constantly awed by the articulate intellect that is displayed here. Rascal, you do such a wonderful service for all of us David fans, leading thoughtful and insightful discussions about an artist we all love and respect. Thank you for keeping us on track, and reminding us that as much as we’d like to know David, we really don’t. It’s just that he presents himself in such an open and honest way…he never appears to pose, not for the cameras, not for his fans during his meet and greets, and certainly never when he performs. He seems to lay out his soul when he sings, and it touches me in a way that no other artist has ever done. When he sings, I believe that I feel whatever it is that he’s feeling… laughter, love, angst, pain. He’s truly remarkable.

Archu_adorable, I have had the exact same thought about the experience of being a “fan.” I am amazed by the behaviors that I’ve seen, as you said, some of it is wonderful, and some of it leaves me shaking my head in dismay. I was thinking that it would be fascinating to research the phenomenon…what drives the passion that we feel? I still don’t really understand how a teen-aged boy has influenced me so strongly. But, here I am, and enjoying every minute.

Thanks again Rascal, and to all of you frequent posters… I don’t watch TV anymore, I just come here!

Rascal, spot-on, as always. Thank you, as always.

When David’s biography comes out, (no one get excited — I’m speculating) I’m going to very interested in the chapter about how he finds the patience for all of his very invested fans. That’s one of the things about him that amazes me. He’s 17, and he has fans of all ages and types shaking or stuttering in his presence, and he’s sweet and calm.

Wow, Rascal now I know why you started this blog. The accallades! I gotta get me one of these. So kidding. You know I luvya! Just made my daily 10:00 break/what new DA videos got posted on youtube.(the 2D version). Kinda slim pickins today,, but this one was kinda cute. He explains what he was doing under the table during that J.Castro interview. Castroleta! What really makes it ‘classic Archie’ is his use of the endearing word/words that we all para-phrase so often – “Dangit.” I laugh everytime I hear him say that. BTW- Nice post-chuleta Archu #3 aka: 75% of todays total posts. HA! You know I luvya too!!

Everyone, You all have expressed thoughts that I have had, do have and thoughts I speculate about.

Kait, I too wonder at his patience with “shaking and stuttering” fans. It continues to amaze me when I see the videos of the fan lines.

But in the end, its all about his voice.

Kait-loved the post on the last thread! It totally got me thinking about how really diverse his appeal already is and how ‘vast’ it is destined to be. I’ve seen so many different references to him being an enigma, but I’m thinkin he’s a little more like a super talented chameleon. He fits into so many genres, and as is evident here at Rascals, his fans of all different groups relate so strongly and deeply to him. He’s the commonality. Dang! Maybe he should be a politician, uniter not divider. BTW does Josie know that she’s a character in your book? lol

Good points, Rascal and friends. And, timely, as David begins his long and storied career.

Personally, I think David provokes such intense feelings in many of us, that we’re drawn to him like moths to a flame. We crave that warmth he exudes, and it’s understandable. His music and his endearing personality are just luminous, magnetic. But, in our eagerness to be close to him, we don’t want to inadvertently overrun him, to consume and destroy the lad. He does deserve a private life like everyone else. We, of all folks, should be most thoughtful and respectful towards him, and resist like heck the impulse to objectify him.

So, the bottom line is–I think that Rascal’s counsel is wise–critique his work, and for the most part, leave his private life alone.

Hopefully, I’ve explained myself well. If not, please forgive my fumbling. No centure intended. How can I say this? Hmm… I just think we, of all people, should love David enough not to tear him to bits in our eagerness to understand who he is and what HIT us. We should care deeply enough for him to give him a little breathing space, room for a life to call his own. Knowing him, he will give us a GREAT deal of himself. I just don’t want to unwittingly drain him dry. He gives me such joy, I want to return the favor as much as I can. I hope you understand where I’m coming from and aren’t offended, friends.

Actually, I am absolutely convinced that he will be unbelievably successful in the music business. The one fear that has flitted past on occasion is that David may lose so much of his privacy that he could choose to walk away from the business in order to have a normal life. That’s why I hope he keeps his home base in Utah. There would be less liklihood it would happen there as he would reside so far from the media centers. I hope to high heaven that he won’t get burnt out and will stay in because he SO loves to share his music and we enjoy it and him so much. But the thought that he might walk away has been disconcerting, even frightening to entertain. So, you see another important reason in my mind to give him space to breathe.

I can’t believe the depth of affection that I’ve developed for this young guy who I’ve barely met. I just don’t want to see him hurt, even inadvertently. Sniff, sniff, dab, dab. I’m a big softy when it comes to David.

JesseQ,
A chameleon! — I started to think I didn’t quite agree, since a chameleon changes while David appears to be very true to himself, but on further thought I realized you are right. In essence, it is our perception of the chameleon that changes. And we all perceive David/David’s music differently based on what we bring to the experience.

And LOL on the Josies. While both ladies have spunk, that was pure coincidence.

JEEPERS CREEPERS! I try to stay away and “get a life” for one weekend and it appears that all “H-E-double hockey sticks” broke loose!

I can’t leave you guys alone for one minute can I!

By the way….LOVE his new video. I’ve liked the song since the first time I heard it, but seeing it accompanied with a visual element is way cool!

SOAR David…..SOAR!! (Preferably in FIRST CLASS where there is a little more *ahem* PRIVACY!) :-D

Peeking in during lunch…

Wow! A lot happened after I went to bed last night and to work this morning…..

JesseQ,

Thanks for the vid. Reminds me he’s still a kid. LOL!

“But, it wasn’t fair! He started it!” tee hee

Once a again Rascal a wonderful beginning to what I’m sure will be an interesting thread. My favorite line “I’t is not our right as his public to expect to know these things”. YES. How we love his work/music, but let him have his life!

Thank you, Rascal! And – Bookaholic – I have had the fear too that David will just walk away but I think he knows that to make it in mainstream music gives him tremendous freedom in the future and a long, muisical future, filled with anything he wants to sing/write/whatever, is what I hope for David.

After the yesterday’s HURRICANE of emotions, rascal gives us calm after the storm! I said it before…what David does with his VOICE, and soon his words & melodies, rascal does with his words!

This “fan” phenomenon is not new or unusual…ie, Elvis..still has his rabid fans even now. It will be the same with David. Difference is, David is starting out with fans of all ages and gender. We are here to stay!

Regarding yesterday’s storm, I dare say it was not the first and it probably won’t be the last ( you know how hurricane’s are, they come & go ) because as David continues his rise in the profession of HIS choosing, he will lose some of the privacy he previously had…only one price of fame, and unfortunately, he will be fodder for every bit of news, good & bad. We, his fans will “have his back” as he says, and that’s where we may have more intense “hurricanes of emotions”. We will celebrate the good and raise our fists to the heavens in protest of any and all bad!! But then rascal will calm the stormy seas once again with soothing words as only he can do and we will all say, “that’s exactly how I feel, just couldn’t find the words!” like we always do! hahaha!
David will continue to bring out the best & worst in his fans. Bottom line…
we all think we know what’s best for David, but it’s funny cause I heard him say on a recent radio interview something like “some people say do this or do that…but I’m gonna do THIS” then laughed that unique laugh of his! I would have to say, and I’m smiling big right now…David Archuleta knows
what he wnts and what he’s doing. I don’t see him “walking away” from his passion, his dream, his DESTINY any time soon! He is stronger than we think. He and his Maker have command of his life. Not his fans or anyone else. David, THE VOICE…I love the sound of that!

Yes….Silverfoxe. That point in the interview was very telling, I thought.

“People have so many different expectations for you. It’s like, ‘No, he’s gonna go this, no, he’s gonna do that, no, he’s gonna go that way.’ So, it’s like…ummmmm…..I’M gonna do THIS.”

He knows exactly what he wants and though he does want to please the fans I think in the end he’ll do exactly what he wants and the rest of us be damned.

Goooo, David! LOL!

I, for one, am just along for the ride. He can take me anywhere he wants to go. It’ll be an adventure!

Sorry my post seems out in left field. I started it early this morning and then got waylaid. Since I couldn’t copy it out (the one thing I am not fond of at this site-hint hint), I couldn’t remove it, refresh, and make sure I was relevant. So it was lose it or post it, and it was already fairly long and was at one time pertinent, so I posted it. Yipes. Oh, well.

Gotta go. The one kid in my life that really does remind me of David is leaving tomorrow on his mission. I’ve got to run our gifts by and say goodbye. Matthew was my son’s best friend from 1st to 10th grade when my son went inactive and pushed his friends from church away. Matthew has a heart like David’s, if ya can believe it. He even comes from a musical family and sings and plays piano. (David has him hands down with the singing, but Matthew plays extremely well.)

I have missed him so much over the past few years. It was interesting coz Matthew’s not shy, but he’s a bit reserved like David. Over the years, I rarely hugged him and never told him I loved him. (I just cooked everything good I could think of for him, like Chantel’s mom did for David.) Anyway, I decided it was pretty odd that I could tell David I loved him and ask for a hug but not Matthew who had been here and stayed in my home a million times and who I also love to distraction. When Matthew went through the temple like you do prior to going on a mission, he called and invited me to come along with his family and family friends. (I was thriled and honored that he would ask me.) He also gave me a couple of the sweetest hugs I’ve ever received in my entire life…and I told him I loved him and how much I’d missed him. Davi’s influence is really widespread, huh? It was just one more good thing that’s come to me coz of the Archulator.

Babble, babble. Some things never change (my wordiness). Sorry! Haha as David would say. Adios for now.

Sorry for the typos. I think it’s still understandable, hopefully.

Rascal’s message above made me emotional, and now #16 Bookaholic, your touching comments made me cry. We are all so full of love and emotion when we talk seriously about David.

thank you! juliebug…that is the quote I heard! and when I heard it, I thought, yeah, David you do what your GREAT BIG HEART tells you to do!
I think ( here I go speculating again…sorry! ) that David went the POP route cause he felt a need to reach out to his age group and because that’s where the BIG money is for artists his age…He passion lies in the more “expressive & emotional from the heart” music (his words) and he’s using, if you will, the POP vehicle to get to where he can share his heart & soul with words & melodies that are just churning around in that beautiful head of his! You bet I am also along for that ride…may be a roller-coaster now & then but what a ride he will lead us on!!

Bookaholic…as he says before WYSYLM…sometimes we forget to tell people how we feel…so good for you! And ADIOS to you for now & Matthew too!

Now, #22, Silverfoxe, you are ridiculously funny, you made me laugh! We do need balance, don’t we?

Diana…yeah, I can be “ridiculous” when it comes to David! Even when I’m trying to be “Dee-Freaky” and serious!! Just can’t help myself!

Two more days…countdown to Thursday..D-DAY…hooo!..I get shaky just thinkin’ about it!!
Only a 25% chance of showers in Evansville on Thursday…that means probably no rain in this here part of our US of A.

We each need David to be something for us, and we don’t agree what that something is. The good news is that we really don’t have authority or ability to make David anything but what he is. His artistry is what provides what we need. From my experience and observation it is the nature of human beings, especially parental types, to stamp children with our expectations or dreams. As a child matures we see potentials that make our hearts swell with pride. The problem with that is that it doesn’t allow the agency and soul of the child to express itself. We want our children to be what we envision for them and what they are isn’t necessarily expressed in what they do but we judge them by their actions and allow the actions to disappoint or encourage our daydreams. A mother learns from the moment she gives birth that her job is to let the child go; to separate herself from her offspring and allow the child his own identity. Each of David’s fans has an idea of who David is and that is different for each of us because our experience and needs are different. It is interesting and fun to discuss the possibilities. We must, however, take care never to superimpose our needs onto David’s person. We can’t expect that David will even be aware of our discussions or if he is will want to peruse them. I personally feel that he should not. I am afraid that it would influence his choices and spoil his purity, nevertheless, I sort of hope he will because so many excellent observations have been expressed here.

JesseQ, while the video shows classic Archie, it also shows classic fan behavior that I often wonder about. “David, hold this sign so I can take a picture, David, wear this silly hat so I can take a picture, David, stand on your head so I can take a picture”, and yes, even “David, put on this chap stick so we can fulfill our fantasies of you.” The fact that he is so gracious about it is the only thing that stops me from running screaming from the room. It’s one of those ‘interesting’ fan behaviors that I’ve noticed – Let’s make the object of our affection and respect act like a trained monkey for our benefit. Where does that come from? These encounters seem more about the fan than about David.

I realize that this is a large part of what fans/celebrities do. It’s just an interesting thing that I have noted, and why I want to find out more about it. Don’t get all angry!

I’m just putting it out there as food for thought for the true fans of David. I would hope we could be as gracious to him as he is to us. And for the record, I have asked him to sign things for me. Next time I’d rather just talk.

Oh yeaaah rascal, so beautifully written and appreciated. I’ve been trying to figure out how to articulate that divide between David, the performance artist–which is more of an objective entity, and David the human being, which is a personal domain. But by the former, I don’t mean to “objectivize” him either, it’s just that I think that component is inevitably going to generate opinions and comments, that’s the nature of celebrity. And I don’t think David would have a problem with that, I think he exhibits much more maturity than some would give him credit for. That’s why I found HG’s dream in the last thread so interesting! Especially the last part about the fight breaking out and you two–HG and David–just looking on. That’s exactly how I think David would react if he were to read these threads. It’s another reality show, and he’d be looking on. Probably rotfl, but not offended. But as others have commented… what do I know about how he might react? Nothing! Indeed, “the rest is all talk”!

and archu_adorable (3) and momofteens(10) I, too, am fascinated by the phenomenon of fandom. There’s an intriguing book called “The Uses of Enchantment” which is a historical reference book on this very subject, you might want to take a look at it. (It’s the book upon which the play, “Into the Woods”, is based.)

While, yes, it’s about the voice–I don’t think it’s ALL about the voice. David is a huge, complex, endlessly fascinating phenomenon all on his own, even if none of us ever said a word about him—such an inspiration to so many, and not *just* for his voice, I don’t believe. It’s his total persona. How could you not be curious about the how and whys of this whole fandango?

One last… as in life in general, I think comments reveal more about the speaker than the spoken about. That’s why I’m hopeful that there would be no offence taken by David himself with regard to the OTT gushing and goofiness that appears through this miraculous blog. Love it–such fun! Thanks to all for revealing so much of YOURselves. Is that inspired by David too? PUH-ROBA-BUH-LEEEE.

HELP – sorry, but I have to go off topic for a bit. The posting of the Crush video cut short the discussions of the previous post A TRIBUTE TO END ALL TRIBUTES. My mac computer let me download the long version but my mac won’t let me play it nor will it let me join the parts together. Anyone here have any advice how to make my mac work? Thank you in advance.

sondra…see #23, juliebug….no worries about what David thinks about OUR expectations, ( and hopes & dreams ) for him. I still am at a loss as to why some people still don’t give David credit to do what he needs to do to achieve his goals. Do you really think he’s going to read some of our sometimes OTT dreams & hopes and yes, expectations we express here, and he’s going to say “Oh MY GOSH!..I can’t do it, I can’t meet all of these high expectations!” It’s laughable, cause he is already is!! He is climbing that mountain and will continue with or without the high expectations we may have..He’ll do it because that is what HE wants, this is HIS dream. And spoil his “purity”, fat chance of that happening…but again it depends on what you mean…have you not seen some of the recent videos we all are having seizures over?
If you’re talking about a different kind of “purity” well, that is very much a private thing that does belong to David & David alone.

JesseQ…yeah I felt the same was after viewing that video…now I’ll just go and watch a couple of really sensible and…eek! shhhh! sexy David videos.

Good gosh! sorry about all the typos…I really must go back to school! but only if I could have a teacher like hello gorgeous! ha!

just saw this…speaking of CRA-ZEH ODD’ers! Very nice video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QzRhut8LPk

Oh my gosh!# 32 highervibe..I have been revealing my true self? I never thought about it…that’s just CRA-ZEH!
But did your hear??? Someone stole my blog name and uses it now & then. That person even “edits” the posts to draw any suspicion away from her/him…that freak!

Thanks rascal for calming the waters and giving clear parameters for discussion: “What David chooses to put out there is up for discussion; what he chooses to keep private is not. It is really as simple as that.” I also appreciate the caution to separate David the person from David’s work.

#3 archu_adorable (and others) I too am alternately fascinated and astonished at the experience of being a fan. I would love to help you research that book, haha! If I looked at myself from a distance as a good friend would, I would even be somewhat concerned. Hours at the computer, flying off to concerts, waiting 3 hours in the hot sun for a brief glimpse of David. Yikes! What’s happened to me? Yet, this is a fabulous journey I/we are on, and I feel blessed to have discovered David.

You also talked about being repelled by some of the OTT fan behavior. Maybe there needs to be a set of rules for fans. One of them could be to treat David as an artist and a human being rather than someone to be manipulated for the fan’s pleasure. Of course, David is also in charge, and can usually find a gracious way out of the most ridiculous requests.

#33 rena, Off Topic: I too have a mac, and I downloaded the full version of David Archuleta – Journey from the second site (badongo) and then, just as you, I had problems playing the parts or joining them together. Finally, I discovered that Badongo Buddy is available for the Mac at this address (FREE registration is required):

http://www.badongo.com/application/mac

Then I tried my best to follow their instructions and somehow magically the parts did merge, and now the video plays beautifully. I wish I could remember more details. Anyway, good luck – the video is worth the hassle!

#38 thank you and THANK YOU. I am going to try it right now.

#37 davidfanLIZ…hope to run into you at the Evansville concert. I just listened to the Providence videos and David was amazing!

And about the ridiculous requests by fans…you all have to admit…David had a VERY good time during the chapstick video. He didn’t HAVE to try on the chapstick and the fans there I think, would not have rioted or had a tizzy fit, but David was playing around with them and he REWARDED them AND all his other fans who found the video “charming” and yes…very sexy. And I love him for showing us he can be spontaneous and fun and doesn’t take himself too seriously all the time. Some of us just have to “chill out”, and enjoy the times when David feels comfortable enough to have fun with his fans. That video jesseQ was talking about WAS NOT one of them.

highervibe, thanks for the info on “Uses of Enchantment.” So all, when is our first collaboration meeting for the fan book? LOL

Just wanted to re-iterate that I was very careful to not to put a judgment on anything we have seen from fans in videos – I never said I was repelled. I was just putting it out there as a consideration and as an example of something I have observed is all. I realize David does not have to do anything any fan requests of him. My point again is that just because he humors us doesn’t mean that whatever we asked wasn’t awkward for him. And I have no way of knowing what those things are unless he verbalizes it.

Dear olemr2001. It worked. I am grateful for your response. I have posted questions on other sites with no luck, since most fans seem to want to write not read. I would have paid for this video tribute. I am running to buy a video ipod and trashing my old one.

#42 rena, I am delighted that you got it to work. Thanks for letting me know.

archu, silverfoxe, ….et al.
I was going to comment after rewatching that vid about how dang annoying, and actually pretty selfish those fans were, but I was just trying ton post a nice, vanilla, benign, fan vid. Even the vanilla can spark debate I guess. I did have him sign my program (it costs $25.00, it bettah get signed), but really I was more interested in talking with him and (on a note), I definitely wanted a picture with him too. I do totally get the perspective of trying to get as much from a celebrity as possible, seeing as you’e probably not going to have frequent meetings with them. Ok..I’m rambling..’Reigning it in.’ (summary): I’ll stick to being scandalous from now on!

One thing I love about you rascal is the precision with which you write. First the “what” you choose to write about is so smart, second the “how” you go about putting forth the “what” is crystal clear, elegant, and heartfelt all at the same time. Whew! I’m always in awe of your brain (if you don’t mind me dissecting you for a moment) and your gift with words, and you are a pretty handsome man too!! haha. I’m giving you the Archuleta treatment in my own way! Your last paragraph, “For it is indeed in his art where David is most revealing; where he has the incredible courage and magnificent skill to lay bare the deepest reaches of his soul” really touched me because ultimately it is his voice and his soul coming through it (my previsous analogy of a big pipe; that’s why I’m not a writer) that are what grips me and keeps me coming back for more and more and more…

jesseQ, thanks for that video. The video of David hiding under the table is one of my favorites. Now we know the story behind his actions. So cut and teenager like. And silverfoxe, I’m with you that unfortunately that video is not one that is showing David having fun with his fans. I feel like I can almost sense his slight irritation (speculating! speculating!). I hope you and davidfanLIZ have a blast in Evansville. I’ll be with you both in spirit.

olemr2001 #38, I thank you too for the tip. I couldn’t do it either and was going to deal with it later whenever. Now I know, I’ll try it when I get home.

man, i love this site! rascal…per usual, you have nailed it.

#31…AMEN!! i have had the same thoughts about the “trained monkey” thing.

#41 archu_adorable – I apologize for using the word “repel” when I referred to your earlier post. You were, as you say, very careful to describe behavior rather than judge. Thanks for clarifying.

#45 vermeer, I love your “dissection” of rascal. Also, I’ll be thinking of you on Thursday!!!

Please don’t apologize davidfan! All is good! I don’t offend easily. :)

. . . and I love you all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVDcB_g7Pj0

David’s new vlog. LOL! Special appearance by David Cook.

Also, someone reported that the ABC family show “Lincoln Heights” used Crush in their commercial for the season premiere next week.

archu_adorable – good to hear! We are all so polite and kind here!
juliebug – the vlog is such a treat! Thanks for the link. David is unbearably adorable!

I never thought I would hear David say, “It’s pretty trippy!” LOL

ROFLMAO “the lovely David Cook” — what is this, shades of 2038’s new daytime talk programming, “The David Archuleta Show”?!? Bwaah ha ha ha ha!! He kills me.

Whew! I haven’t been here since this morning, but so glad to see a new post up. Especially one on this topic. Talk about bringing back, as silverfoxe said, some “calm after the storm.” Great metaphor!

highervibe#32, how awesome are you to even take a stab at interpreting my convoluted dream. Thanks! And, yes, the fight/brawl does seem to mirror what goes on here sometimes.

Silverfoxe, I have older students in my classes some times, so I certainly would love to have you as a student!

juliebug#52, thanks so much for sharing the link to David’s new vlog. So cute! Where did you hear Lincoln Heights is using “Crush”? Jive is definitely working overtime for our David, aren’t they?

Obviously, I now have a change of heart about his label. :)

Great post, Rascal. Online discussions of David’s character have often made me a little uncomfortable because those discussions tend to put him wayyyy up on a pedestal (not a nice thing to do to anybody).

That said, I am fascinated by the positive impact David’s had on so many lives without ever making a speech or deliberately trying to sway anyone about anything (other than maybe to share his love of music). That’s what I’d love to research — the amazing stories out there of individual fans and how their lives have been changed for the better (myself included).

David’s power may begin with his voice, but it clearly doesn’t end there.

(And “The David Archuleta Show”? — can’t wait for the whole network! lol)

davidfanLIZ, you used the word “unbearably” which is exactly what I was thinking about while working away here at work towards a deadline, totally resisting to go online for some Archufix for my ODD. David is unbearably adorable and it feels unbearable sometimes to have to wait. It’s “pretty trippy” to be this addicted. juliebug, thanks for the vlog link. I really appreciate the fact that David keeps us posted on his activities here and there. I can only imagine what all the idols must be feeling now that there are only 3 more shows. The pending separation after such intense months together. Bittersweet indeed. Sigh.

#56 Hello Gorgeous….

It’s reported on IDF and TWOP both, so far. People are spazing! LOL!

Jive rules. Honestly, I don’t think he could have landed at a better label for him. They tend to nurture their artists and stick with them for the long haul for the most part. I think they really believe in him and will do right by him.

Not only Jive but Sony. I read…somewhere (I read so much stuff I can never remember where half the time)… that on Emanen (sp? – the guy who wrote Crush)…on his website some guy he knows wrote him a message telling him that he had been in the Sony building on business the week before and was on an elevator and there were a bunch of Sony execs on it that were talking about Crush and how they expected it to be HUGE. He wanted the guy to know what he’d overheard. This was the week it was released to iTunes…before it went #2 on the Hot 100.

Cool!

#57 TOfan…

Loved your post.

David is a LEADER. But he leads by example.

The websites are awash with stories of fan encounters with David. And what an impression he leaves….even on non-fans. Sites for the other idols are full of stories of how they came away from the concerts and signings and meet and greets, etc., a new fan of David….not only for his music…but for him.

Just today, someone posted on David’s MySpace the following:

“Hi, David. I just want to thank you for being such a great guy and lifting the spirits of us Word Nerds this weekend who were feeling down. You are warm and thoughtful and amazing to your fans and a great role model. After 9 shows, no more AI tour dates for me, but you have won me over with your personality this summer and I look forward to buying your album.”

That is cool! :)

That didn’t take long. LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGUTXHcerwY

Just watched David’s vlog…I was just wondering (again) how much longer David can just go through an airport or anywhere for that matter, just like everyone else? I wonder if there are bodyguards around & out of sight? I know if I saw David somewhere, I would probably just stand there, frozen! Yes, I would and I know some of you don’t buh-lieve me! But what would you all do if you saw David somewhere? Especially you all, like me who haven’t had the pleasure of meeting him? I guess it boggles my mind that he can still walk around like a “normal” person through an airport or to a restaurant. I know..I’m being supremely silly, but I just wanna know! How would you all react?
Oh, one more thing…you must go to FOD and read Carla’s post and her conversation with Jeff about his take on “where David goes” and why we are “mesmerized” when he sings….V E R Y….
IN-TER-EST-ING!

Quite a lot happening tonight as the tour winds down … “Crush” on an ABC Family TV ad, a new vlog from David, & of course all the conversation about David, the artist vs David, the person.

May I backtrack to the technical support offered to rena by olemr2001 (#33, 38, 42, 46). I’ve been trying to get the tribute video to play on my MacBook as well. I’ve downloaded the four files and the free badongo application for the mac. I tried to follow the directions for merging the files, but to no avail. Any further assistance would be appreciated.

I am so glad I listened to many on here who said not to miss the chance to attend one of the concerts if at all possible – thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

My husband just smiled as I acted like a fangirl when David appeared – for a moment in time I lost all interest in being reserved and “acting my age”. After countless hours of watching You Tube videos – to actually see David in person was beyond anything I could imagine.

That Voice – it truly did have me hypnotized and mesmerized! From the moment he appeared this unexpected peace came over me even through I was sooooooo excited to finally be seeing him – I can’t explain it or put it into words – it was just a wonderful feeling of being at peace.

The end of his four songs came way to quickly – I couldn’t believe it was over so soon – I felt like I was in a trance listening and watching him – and then it was over. I turned to my husband and said “It can’t be over yet”! He just gave me an understanding smile – he loves David too.

Although I was not able to go early or stay afterwards, I am thrilled that I was able to hear and see David. It would have been wonderful to meet him, but I am sure I would have been rendered speechless.

It is a night I will always remember!

After commenting on the previous blog, I felt as if I had dissapointed my little brother on this site. I responded to an observation about the “lake” scene. My little brother(rascal) responded with, ” no need to get debate team” or anything! oops, I wasn’t sure if I should come back, but, I love it here! I never meant to sound as if I was giving fact, it’s just how I saw it. Soooo very happy to see the response from little bro’. I am once again, amazed on your timing to “reel” the conversation back to what is right and first. We initially reacted to David’s musicality, then his endearing personality. I can’t write it as well as most, but I am extremely excited to follow David and his music.

Rascal I want to thank you for stating so eloquently what I was feeling in yesterday’s discussion. David is about the music. This is how he wants to communicate with people. He wants the music to mean something to them. Music lifts him up or calms his soul and he wants to share that with us. If asked the right questions he can be quite eloquent but I believe he naturally feels he is not terribly interesting. He is more interested in the stories the fans have to tell him. David is a people person-he connects with people but it is more of a listener than a talker until he sings. Then it all pours out of him through every pore. The energy he puts into his performance amazes me. The attention he pays to his fans amazes me. His tremendous voice amazes me. I guess I am just amazed!!!!

Bookaholic, (love your name) I too am a bit concerned about burnout. However, he really does seem to eat this all up. His schedule would have most of us under the floor. I work with the public and I sometimes go home just drained. Yet David just keeps smiling and singing. He is living his dream and enjoying it all. As long as we fans can have a symbiotic relationship with David and don’t become parasites sucking him dry (he wouldn’t let us) I think he will be in this for the long haul. The next couple pop years might get a little crazy with fans but he will manage his career quite well as he experiments with all genre. He stated he doesn’t read posts or blogs because he doesn’t want to be swayed this way and that. This is a wise young man with an old man’s soul.

Oops cut and paste got out of control here.

archiesfan4life….See why so many just HAVE to go to more than one concert?
I’m so happy you were able to attend! David’s dad explains the phenomenon that is David and why YOU felt the way you did! Check out Carla’s post on FOD!
I was surprised about it, not that this is what Jeff believes, cause many people believe it too, but that he told a fan about his take on why David affects so many just the way you were affected. It kind of threw me a little, but I’m not sure why. I felt the way you did when I saw David in Lexington, but I didn’t consider it a “religious” experience. I think the “peaceful” feeling we get is due to finally, finally seeing the OBJECT of our deep affection and it’s almost a relief to see he is real and not someone we just IMAGINED. It’s almost more than we can bare when it’s over ( his set ).
Anyhooo…I will see him again on Thursday…just to make SURE he and the last several months has not been a figment of my IMAGINATION!
So you all will not be seeing “silverfoxe” posting here ( ok, ok, no need for the applause! ) for a few days…gonna go to Evansville tomorrow and will be at the barricades bright & early on Thursday! I let you all know all about me “out of this world” experience on Saturday! Later & BLD!

I meant….I will let ya’ll know all about my “out of this world” blah, blah, blah!
Ya’ll is Kentucky talk for “you all” for you New Englanders. Adios!

Rascal, do you feel like tackling a post on Jeff’s comments mentioned in silverfoxe’s comment #63?

I have never met Jeff so I don’t know how to interpret his comments. I kind of feel that there’s a lot I don’t know about Jeff, and I see only what he presents publicly, or the image he wants us to have. As I mentioned, I’ve never even met him. Maybe Jeff will be at Ford Day.

silverfoxe – thank you – I agree with everything you said in reply to my post. I will be anxiously awaiting your posts when you get back from Evansville.

I wanted to read Carla’s post regarding what Jeff said, but I am not able to find it – I will keep looking.

Have a GREAT time!

Apparently, while hunting down more links to the Crush video, lo and behold I discover that it has already generated buzz in the gay community, as well as heated debate, about whether or not the “crush” could either be a guy or a girl.

Didn’t I tell you all it was vague enough to invite such a reading?

That’s what happens when you put buff, shirtless guys in the video (especially when David isn’t among the shirtless and is simply looking on).

If you go here

http://www.z100.com/cc-common/videos_on_demand/

and click on the D (for David) instead of A (for Archuleta) – go figure – under videos on demand….you can view the Crush video. hee!

Odd they have it On Demand before the release….hmmmm……

Wow! Thanks for the link, juliebug. You’re so good at this! :)

Sorry, archu_adorable, I wrote that post too early in the morning!! Wrong book. The one I meant to mention is “The Frenzy of Renown: Fame and Its History” by Leo Braudy. Silly me! OK, so the thing is, that book is really braniac stuff. I’m sure ours will be MUCH more entertaining. I’m on board! (Just don’t put me in charge of the bibliography!)

OK, going to read more now, just had to mention that right away.

In reference to my comment #71:
But on the other hand, commenting on Jeff’s remarks probably violates the parameters set out in this post: “What David chooses to put out there is up for discussion; what he chooses to keep private is not. It is really as simple as that.” David didn’t put this out there, his Dad did, plus his Dad was speaking privately with one person.

Archiesfan4llife: you lucky you! Although I don’t think I could go to a DA concert with my husband. He will start wondering.
Silverfox: take me with you!!!!!!!!!
Hello Gorgeous: I forgot to tell you yesterday that you are welcome to be my kids’ teacher anytime. Wish there were more like you. Really!
Tofan: ‘fascinated by the positive impact David has had on so many lives without ever making a speech or deliberately trying to sway anyone about anything’. Exactly my thoughts. Are you in Panama, spying on me? Talk about his silent impact.

Now re today’s topic: isn’t humanity’s number one challenge to restrain from judging others. We all impose our ideas, visions, expectations on others: how we think they should react, say, or even feel. We cannot declare we know somebody’s true intentions. Most of our reactions are based on our uprearing, past experiences, culture, environment. And we tend to believe that the way we learned, live, is the right one. And that is when we fall into the judging game.
Truly, we cannot say we know David. I admit, as an LDS, I expect him to behave a certain way, just like I expect my kids to behave, but if he fail short of that, does that make him less human?
I love David James, I am impressed by the impact he is having on people all over the world, a positive impact and he is just 17. At that age, there is still so much to learn about yourself, to discover, change, adapt. It never ends. Today chapstick was funny, tomorrow it may embarrass him, and in a few years it will be funny again. Who knows!

As a fan, I have to learn to separate the two: David, the person, and David, the artist. I have to stop myself from expecting anything from him. HE IS A KID, who loves to sing, who wants others to know how much music means to him, who wants to make others feel and understand it too.
For now, I am enjoying the ride, and oh! what a ride.

Back and all is relatively well in the world. Got my multitudinous cookies and gifts with funny card to Matthew B. before he left, got a great hug and some pictures. I am a tad glum because I won’t see him for two solid years, but I am proud of him, for sure. He’s a rock of integrity, sweet, funny, fun-loving, cute, loves and plays piano like nobody’s business. He also, and more importantly, has a strong testimony of diety, and is worthy and eager to serve.

Sorry about touching on religion, but ya gotta salute personal excellence when ya see it. Matthew, like David, seems a rare commodity in this wicked world of ours. I know David wants to serve a mission but his’ll be a different kind coz he’ll be way too famous to do a regular one. He sure has touched a lot of hearts deeply already, though, I’d say. He really inspires me to up my game, to try harder to be a good person.

It is almost otherworldly the number and intensity of tender feelings that David can evoke in me, like he stepped out of heaven yesterday. At least, that’s how it feels to me.

Since I’m yammering on interminably, I might as well throw out a couple of sweet tributes you may not have seen. They touched me enough that I printed them up with that 16 picture combo from David’s myFox DC interview. Here they are for anyone who missed them:

“I don’t know. He infected me with his happy. I want to be him when I grow up. Maybe if they offered classes on how to be kind and good and gracious and steadfast, and smart and talented and particular and forgiving, and happy, if they offered classes in all of that, I could totally be David Archuleta when I’m old.”

“As an atheist, it takes a lot for me to believe in anything. In David, I believe that he is a spirit so rare and a personality so innocent that it leaves me with a sense of passionate helplessness as to what to do with him. If joy is what life should have; if laughter is to be enjoyed; if music a spiritual way of connecting to another soul; if caring for others is a virtue; if absolute beauty and truth lie in a huge heart like his, then I must support and enjoy him in everything that he does.”

The last one may have come off this site, but I felt it was so beautiful, I hope it’s okay that I put it back up again. Sweet and tender sentiments are just as good the second time around.

Hey, I’m actually missing something the FIRST time around coz I haven’t heard the radio interview where David talks about doing the music that HE wants to do. Would some kind soul post a link for me?? I’ll look for it tomorrow with hope in my heart. For now, I’ll toddle off to bed and maybe dreams of David. Have had a couple interesting dreams where he visited me, one memorable. *Sigh* Good night, all!

davidfanLIZ — Thanks for your view on the question of propriety on discussing Jeff’s comment, I do appreciate everyone remaining thoughtful about such matters. In this case, however, there are two issues that mitigate for me the possible limitations on discussion about this.

One is that this is not the first time Jeff has explained his view on this. He doesn’t do it often, but he’s done it before, and in much the same manner. In other words, it’s on record already and therefore theoretically open for discussion.

Second–and I know there are those who disagree with me about this–I have a hard time categorizing Jeff’s (or anyone else on ‘Team David’’s) comments to fans as private–unless, of course, they characterize them as confidential. Fans are by definition “David’s public;” they are not family, not friends, not colleagues. They certainly care more about maintaining a positive image and a respectful discourse about David than the wider press, but Jeff in particular knows very well the degree of reporting detail that goes on in the fan forums and on the blogs. He has to assume that anything he says to one fan is like saying it to all the fans. Personally, I have had discussions and correspondence with members of ‘Team David’ where information was indeed characterized as confidential, and I have naturally respected the status of that information. Everything else, in my opinion, is open for discussion.

Ironically, there is a reason why I may not want to encourage discussion around this particular comment, but it’s not because I consider it private. Although the topic of a spiritual component in David’s music is a rich one, even an obvious one, and has of course been discussed at length here before, it has always been challenging to adopt the right… shall we say… “framework of language” that feels comfortable and inclusive for all. Unfortunately, these discussions tend to break down into issues of semantics, doctrine, and of course personal belief. On the other hand, I am rarely one to shrink from a challenge, and so I am contemplating how we might best go about initiating another thread about this.

Stay tuned.

Good points, rascal, and I’m inclined to believe that discussions about spirituality are like discussions about spirituality. Both come from deeply personal and intimate experiences, which, when made public in a discussion, are bound to create tensions because they mean different things to different people.

It’s not the first time Jeff intuited that David’s music is linked to his spirituality – indeed, one of my favorite Jeff quotes (I believe it was in the Spanish-language People magazine) is when he says, “Someone up there must want him to sing because, medically, he shouldn’t be able to do that.”

I understand his devotion as a father, who, based on his own personal beliefs, I believe sees David’s music as a miracle and one that he’s willing to support 100 percent.

There is something incredibly divine about David’s voice, and especially when you consider such a voice coming out of one vocal chord!

This divinity doesn’t have to simply be linked to Christian doctrine since divinity – like sexuality – can transcend our social expectations and limitations.

In my own spiritual beliefs, I’ve always felt that God was bigger than religion anyway.

And one of the proofs that this is so is when I listen to David singing. I certainly don’t need to be a member of LDS, or a Christian for that matter, to be touched by his spirit.

Obviously, rascal, I’m taking on your challenge! ;)

“I’m inclined to believe that discussions about spirituality are like discussions about spirituality.”

Oops! That should read: I’m inclined to believe that discussions about spirituality are like discussions about sexuality.

Oh my gosh, how could I actually THINK I would not peek in here one more time before taking off for Evansville??
Hmmmm…Good thing I don’t have the time to join in on the discussions regarding Jeff’s comments…maybe I shouldn’t have brought it up, but I’m guessing someone else probably would have anyway. I didn’t know what to think about it. Don’t know if it was a good thing or not, mainly because comments like those can be a turnoff to some, even David’s most loyal fans…so I am at a loss here. I have admired David even more for NOT talking about his religious beliefs..everything I know about it is what I’ve heard or read by others who “know” David. When I hear David sing, it touches me and I could listen to that voice sing anything and I can look at him all day (in videos, of course), but I don’t think of it as a “religious” experience…Also, I just can’t connect “the Spirit” being in David when he’s singing songs like “Apologize”, SBM or even CRUSH. sorry, but I can’t. And as far as “Angels” & WYSYLM, two of my very favorites, he takes my breath away…whether it’s spiritual….maybe.
So much for not joining in…And one more thing…I REALLY WANT TO BE
DAVID COOK, not like him…be him!!! Guess why?

Good morning all,

Thank you Rascal for the fair and balanced way you approached the topics of yesterday. I have felt comfortable addressing my fangirlyness because of this. I too shall try to keep it all in balance.

hello gorgeous- I am in complete agreement #82 and #83.

It is my belief that spirituality is very much a part of my reaction to David’s voice and joy is a part of what I feel. His inner and outer beauty are also responsible for other feelings.

Don’t know if this is appropriate for me to say, but here goes.
Sexuality and sensuality are all a part of being human which I BELIEVE were meant to be a part of all lives to give joy as well. It’s not that I believe you have to be sexual and sensual all over the place, but I don’t understand why this has to be denied. Even though David is 17 years old these things are a normal part of development and they don’t start automatically at 18 years of age. That’s just what I think and I’m sure there are many others who will disagree. I am just one person.

Thanks again Rascal for this safe haven. I wish I could frame and express my thoughts as well as you do.

LOL, silverfoxe- you crack me up. Sorry, if I wasn’t supposed to laugh but you are hilarious sometimes.

Silverfoxe, you’re always such a comic relief on this blog! :)

Totally in full agreement with ram#85. In fact, when silverfoxe and the rest of us talk about being “touched” by David’s voice, isn’t that BOTH spirituality and sensuality?

With all the fan reports about the tour, the common theme always seems to be how David is like a regular 17-year-old in person but up on stage, he is completely transformed into something so much bigger. Those who’ve heard him live often talk about how his voice is so powerful, it fills you up and washes over you.

In a different context – oh, like CHURCH – they call that being filled with the Holy Spirit. In certain Latin-American and Caribbean communities, which practice voodoo, santeria, and candomble, they would call it spiritual possession.

The commercial confines of pop music would obviously contain this spiritual power, but it’s obviously there, which is why I can understand where Jeff is coming from when he makes such comments. David wouldn’t because he’s only 17, very humble, and probably hasn’t interpreted his gift in the same way (but then again, he can’t hear himself the way we do).

But, to me, when David sings, I can’t help but say, like they do in a lot of Black Baptist churches: “Can I get a witness?”

I also think this “spirit” is very sensual and I have often interpreted David’s devotion to music as erotic redirection. Which is why it’s not incongruous (to me at least) that he can have very little life experience but can still sing a love song like somebody who’s been through the fire and survived it.

This in no way suggests that I “know the artist,” which this blog post warns against. But, it is how he affects me.

#64-Deb: I don’t know if you have figured out how to play the tribute video yet, but a while ago I downloaded flip4Mac http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17787
which converts PC files to play on macs. This is how I have been able to view the video. Once it is installed, when you open the file it should make a quick conversion before opening it in quicktime.

I enjoy the ebb and flow of discussion here very much, even when the storms blow in. I am happy to take David as he comes in whatever way he chooses to communicate. I have no doubt that there is a lot more to him than we have seen. It makes it all the more intriguing to watch his story unfold.

Look now…I really have to go, but I have to say to Ram…I don’t understand why you laughed??? I really DO WANT TO BE David Cook..bit let me clarify..only when he’s with David Archuleta!! Bet those two have a blast when they’re together!!

hello gorgeous!!! Yeah…CAN I GET A WITNESS??!!! AMEN, BABY!!!
And as a Latina…I get what you’re saying about “Spiritual Possession”…I buh-lieve David has us all POSSESSED! Some spiritually and others…maybe not so much some times, like when we saw that Chapstick II video. Wonder what “came over” David then?? HoooKaaay…time for me to go now before I get banned from here!

>>I have often interpreted David’s devotion to music as erotic redirection.<<

Can I get a witness?!?

I almost fell off my chair, hello gorgeous. And not just because this is a brilliant observation well articulated, but because one of the very first comments I ever posted about David Archuleta, way back in probably February, in response to the first questions about his romantic life, was the following:

“I think music is David’s lover.”

Nice! I discovered your blog back in May, rascal. So, now that I know you said that about David, I need to dig into the archives.

“Music is David’s lover.”

Truer words have never been spoken!

Silverfoxe, keep witnessing! Is there a Church of David we can join? Ha! (Not trying to blaspheme here – *ducks for cover.*)

I don’t think I re-posted it here, hello gorgeous, you’d have to look for it at Rickey’s.

And I think you’ve already joined the Church of David. This is it.

Absolutely true! Music is a lover for many musicians, and such relationships channel a lot of sexual energy. I also believe that spirituality needs to be very broadly defined and not confused with religiosity.

Wish I had more time to linger here. You people are so refreshing!

Mr. Rascal, sir

Have you at some time already addressed his Mom’s influence vis a’ vis salsa, (and he was probably exposed to merengue) as well as other latin, caribbean music? If so, I’ll definitely need to go back and check the archives.

I wish I had more knowledge about that music (other than dancing it, I have no background in this.)

Another thing I am curious about is how his culture has and will play a part in his singing and maybe the music he writes. Kinda like this is all speculation maybe, but I am very curious.

And, uh the “sir” part is cuz I am floored how you already have thought through so much about David. I am in awe. Sorry, no gushing allowed.

Wow, hello gorgeous is giving rascal a run for his money with that ‘erotic redirection’ comment. Great stuff! And I agree completely.

Meantime, rascal, I enjoy reading blog comments on my bus commute via my Treo, but unfortunately the bg colors of this blog makes them unreadable. Argghhh! Should I use a different url perhaps?

silverfox – I read carla’s story this morning and enjoyed it so much. I liked what Jeff had to say about what is David’s first and second priority in life…v-e-r-y int-ter-est-ing!

Rascal I don’t know if you have saw the commercial for Lincoln Heights yet, but after I watched it, I rememered what you wrote a while back that caused a bit of controversary about the Crush song. Sorry to remind you about it…but I just had to say YOU WERE SOOO RIGHT!!
This song can be nothing more than expressing feelings of your first teenage crush…OR…a more serious adult relationship between two people (get my drift Rascal without rehashing the whole topic? LOL).

Ha! At first I didn’t know what you were referring to, Inspired by David, because I’m thinking, “gee, the only thing I’ve ever really said about Crush is that while it’s a perfect little pop tune, David was somehow able to infuse it with that deeper yearning that pulls at the heartstrings that he is so good at…” But then I realized that “writing” doesn’t always have to mean a “statement,” it could mean a “question….” Ha ha. Well, one need only check in to the poll results to see where the majority is on that issue.

Rascal, yes, the Is “Crush” Sexy article and the poll where you asked the question and some became bent out of shape over it. I was ok with it and understood what you were saying, but after they played it on the commercial and seeing the two characters in love…I CAN SOOOOO TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU on the Crush is SEXY thing!! LOL!!! See Rascal…you were looking ahead and knew how Hollywood works, and how they could portray something as innocient as a teenage crush song as being something much more LOL!!!!!! Your so awesome Rascal…tee hee hee!!

hello gorgeous, I was still mulling over your words of “David’s devotion to music as erotic redirection” when rascal reminded us of his“Music is David’s lover” statement which I’ve missed also because I didn’t know about the Rickey’s days prior to discovering notingDavid, then it started to sink in. Erotic seemed like a strange word to me at first, and it’s even stranger that I myself never connected art with erotic when I’ve always called art (painting and drawing as it relates to me) as my HOT LOVER, always have. In fact, once while moving colors on the canvas with my brush, I remember literally saying to myself I am making love to this surface right now. Wow, you and rascal are good! I wasn’t even painting anything remotely erotic. It is just this intense love that you feel at the core and the desire to make it come out.

Well, you know, David’s deep. He digs deep into his music. When you get that deep, you’re bound to encounter the erotic, which is why I think so many describe him in terms of the sensual or the spiritual or both.

NotingDavid is truly a place where one can learn and work on inner development, a fourth dimension, beyond the development of mind, body and emotions. Your gift to find the center, the balance, in these discussions is true brilliance. Through your efforts of defining David’s artistry, you have provided a refining tool that enhances how to identify, relate to and interpret David’s artistry. To be able to incorporate a number of the ideas and viewpoints of others, and at the same time, create and assimilate that which is unique about experiencing David’s artistry is a wonderful gift that I take away from here.

I am looking forward to see how you craft your next article and guide the commentary.

Kizzi — I am humbled by your great kindness, and grateful for the opportunity to support David and his fans in this way. There have been times when it would have been much easier to have forsaken the effort. It requires a steady sense of purpose and, at times, a very thick skin. There are people out there who would undoubtedly like to treat me like a wolf under a Sarah Palin helicopter. The remarkable amount of intelligent and thoughtful participation here, along with the expressions of appreciation like yours, are what keep me going. But the credit for my words is almost entirely David’s. I don’t write about him in order to call attention to myself but because his music and his journey inspire my thoughts and my passion for expression. David’s voice has helped me find mine.

There is a strong parallel, Rascal, between the courage that David manifests in being himself and following his purpose and what you do. He had detractors as do you. He has supporters who have his back, as do you (the committed citizens here at NotingDavid).

There are varying levels of truth and awareness is all of us. When someone’s truth is close to ours, we experience connection and joy. When it is disparate, we experience dissonance. Thank you for your leadership and courage. If these were medieval times, I would be one of many warriors protecting your back.

“There are people out there who would undoubtedly like to treat me like a wolf under a Sarah Palin helicopter.”

BWAHAHA!

I can’t believe you said that, or found a way to even use this metaphor in this Church of David!

Oh, but you did!

:D

Rascal,

I agree with Kizzi’s eloquently stated remarks. Yes, Courage, with a capital “C”. A true spiritual warrior!

rascal, along with Kizzi and many others, I look forward to what new thoughts David’s music and journey will inspire you to share with us. You are a strong individual to put your thoughts out to the public because no matter how succinctly one writes, people coming from various backgrounds and perspective will have unexpected interpretations now and then. It’s been great fun to visit this place so thank you from me too for continuing your work and I hope when things are painful, you know that many many of us really support you and trust you.

I’ve been loving the discussion here today. So much food for thought!

hello gorgeous, love the “erotic redirection”

rascal, love the “Music is David’s lover.”

vermeer, love the “HOT LOVER,” “…just this intense love that you feel at the core.”

This is powerful stuff!

It is fascinating to contemplate that place where creative energy lies, that synergistic mix of art and sensuality and spirituality. As hello gorgeous said, David goes deep. What a pleasure it is to experience and try to understand that deep place.

rascal, thanks for being our guide.

Wow, Rascal and the posters are really awesome. I may not be able to express the way you fellows do, but I understand and fully connect with you all. You fellows are just as amazing as my sweetheart David James….this ability to connect and touch hearts with joy and appreciation. This site (thank you Rascal) is indeed a very healthy and enriching place to surf. Very intelligent and well thoughtout comments, tons of respect and consideration for others and most important of all, there is so much unconditional love for David. And seldom off-topic, name dragging through the mud and toxi comments are not welomed (thanks to Rascal).

And Silverfoxe, thanks for making us laugh through our bellies (mind you many times I had to bend down squealing). You are notorious for being supremely silly and crazy (in a loving way) but from what I have read from your more serious comments I know you are a very level-headed and enlightened person. You don’t judge, you don’t impose your views, you just put forward your opinions and made light of them. I am aware that you are away now attending David’s next concert and I hope you really have a good time.

Cheers to all !

#102, kizzi, I just read your comments, you sum up my thoughts which I was not able to put into words, thanks a ton!

#103, Rascal, BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

I am new to this site and it is a refreshing place to be. Count me as one who tries to understand the music coming from David’s soul. The technical aspects of it are fascinating. The artistic choices amaze me. I remember the looks on the faces of Paula, Randy and Simon during “Heaven”. I can’t even describe the looks on their faces…wonder, awe, respect, joy, astonishment, relief, hope, happy disbelief?!? My beautiful daughter is a singer. Her voice affects people in these ways. In our community she was always, The Voice. Why? With her it is a little different. She is able to communicate the sad longings of Jazz better than anyone who has ever heard her has heard before.
I bring this up not to brag, but just to reflect that sometimes a person’s whole soul can be offered up in a song. Someone once said there are two kinds of singers–performing artists and soul-to-soul communicators. This was already a familiar place for me when I heard David.
As a piano teacher, once in a great while you hear someone who transports you into their own soul or reaches into yours with the sounds being made. If you already love music, you would almost mortgage your life to keep on hearing/feeling this soothing connection. David can do this in a very broad way–he IS the song.

gracefield, I like “happy disbelief” as description of the expression on the judges’ faces! Simon’s mouth hanging open was quite funny.
David IS the song, that’s a wonderful statement.

Cheers to you too Diana! In my pre-notingDavid days, I was swimming in the vast cyberspace, encountering some mean sharks who wrote supremely irritating and often baseless things about David. I never imagined I would end coming to a blog site so consistently, much less post comments (except for those days when I chose to fight the sharks). Needless to say, it is all because of rascal and of course David who is the inspiration and the connector.

Oh Gracefield – that was an amazing explanation of how I feel – you really hit the nail on the head. And I quote, “If you already love music, you would almost mortgage your life to keep hearing/feeling this soothing connection.” That statement expresses how I feel so perfectly in regard to David’s singing. I don’t post much, I usually just love to read what everyone else says, (you’re all so wonderfully eloquent and articulate), however, I had to comment on that.
I’m a very amateur singer myself and music lover. I can listen repeatedly to David all day, every day and never tire of that feeling and connection. Bravo, for putting it so succinctly.

Very interesting comments from everyone. Since the discussion is on David’s character, I would like to say that I too don’t really like the idea of putting him on a pedestal like he is so perfect in everyway. David would be the first person to raise his hand and say “stop it!” For many people, including myself, we see David as more than an average person. Even at such a tender age, he shows so much class, so much respect for people, unfeigned humility, so much talent, and he is so gorgeous on top of all those wonderful qualities. Perhaps because he isn’t like the average person, people would tend to put him way UP there. And to me that is alright as long as we don’t think of him as a “god” but rather think of him as someone who is trying his hardest to first do what is right and be true to what he believes in.

There’s a video showing his neighbors telling stories about David and how this wonderful boy showed so much love and service to those around him. I’d like you to watch it. I consider this a testimonial of David’s character in a way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Vi7_eQiAs&eurl=http://davidarchuletafanblast.com/

Aw, what a sweet video! Thanks for sharing, Ely!

Wow, here’s a jazzy/acoustic version of “Crush” that is absolutely amazing. What I would give to hear David tackle this version in future – he’d be phenomenal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUCTIxAdqcM

Just got off the phone with my little jazz singer. She is studying with Dean Kaelin right now and it is air for her. She was crying from happiness because of just the sounds that were made in studio during the lesson. I was trying to explain my thoughts about her singing and David’s and her husbands drop dead piano skills….I don’t care if any of them are famous….I just don’t want the sound to stop. Sometimes when you sing you know you have “come home” . Sometimes when you listen you become family. That is who we are here, I guess…..